Check out this excerpt from my interview with Robert LoCascio

My question: [Your therapist] told you, “stop sleeping at home, stop using your mother’s credit card. You have to be your own man and stand up for yourself!” Right?

Robert’s answer: Yes. That was the first thing he said was, “Look. I’m going to ask you to do a bunch of things you’re not going to want to do, and if you don’t do them, I’m not going to work with you because I don’t want to work with losers.”

That was his thing. It was pretty hard core.

He said, “The first thing I’m going to ask you to do…I want you to go home and I want you to give the credit card back.” My mother had given me a credit card because I didn’t have any money to eat.

[He said,] “I want you to take this journey on your own.”

I told him, “I don’t have any place to sleep.”

He said, “Well, you have an office, right?”

I said, “Yeah.”

He goes, “Sleep there”.

So I went to the Kmart downtown, got a comforter and a pillow. That first day on that couch, I was alone…. I remember thinking, “Man, this is a scary day. I’m alone. It’s dark. It’s November. I’m alone in this building that no one’s in right now.”

There was no shower or anything. I had to shower at a health club. (I got a health club membership.) But I was like, “This is just the beginning of something. I’m either going one way or I’m going the other way.”

I had no place to go.

I knew I had to go up, because I was at the bottom.

You should read, watch or listen to the full interview.